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(, You do know the owner, Anna, is a transgender. Everyone in Convention Hall knew it. Feedback: https://www.tmz.com/2023/01/15/miss-universe-new-owner-accused-rigging-pageant-miss-usa/, Where is that BIG MOUTH Heather O'Keefe now? You're hot, the world is different now. Miss Clemson Teen, Piper Holt, won the Wednesday Evening Gown/Onstage Question preliminary in the Miss South Carolina Teen competition. (, Makes sense that USA won. Delegates can compete in two state pageants in a calendar year. They are all basically stuck in a ballroom/hotel all week. But who would want to replace her? Join us tomorrow night 11/28 @ 6 pm for an informational zoom call. All rights reserved. Post Office Box 297 | Hartsville, SC 29551 Phone: 843-857-9173 | Fax: 843-857-4414 Congratulations Jill Dudley, Miss South Carolina 2022! I heard her Miss America prep was handled by a couple of drag Queens. (, Your opinion but others have a right to disagree. I never agree with the top 10/16 but I appreciate glamour and beauty. Otherwise a lovely group. But I always thought these were general guidelines for the judges to keep in mind, and that they would never say "We want THAT girl, Make it happen." I also think - lighting was fine, doesn't look like it used to. Has anyone ever watched Telemundo (especially on news shows or a live English-speaking event), For this person and others like myself who are not super sharp and up to date on modern technology, can sometime please provide a link or instructions on how to watch the pageant on Roku? Exciting Girls & Boys Online Photo Contest!!! It's a high price to pay when you're one of the front runners and I hope she realizes this negativity, unfortunately comes with the territory. Lets hear it since this board is anonymous. (, Wasn't there a big thread here saying you can watch it on Roku online streaming? She may be eligible to compete again in 2024. (, I'm not even the original poster. Sign up is quick. This is a tough year, so many gorgeous women. (, I agree about some "sash" countries, but others were above average. So that tells me a lot. I thought she had the best interview on that years video and should have been top 3, at least. (, Huge Announcement on Thursday Zoom Call, even local directors are invited. Whats the point in having a forum that has dictatorship mods. She was a horrible host. (, agreed The gowns ( most were awful) Would anyone actually wear any of them anywhere but a pageant? (, YES! (, My favorite EG was Kylene's gold gown that she wore when she gave up the crown. Even the locals didnt feel safe. By MUO crowning her, they can now say see USA wasnt fixed. (, Would love to see whose State's Drivers License she holds. contribution is not tax-deductible.) (, Well, I would think it's a rather tough peedicament to be in. Miss South Carolina 2022 is Jill Dudley. Utah 2022. Margaret's styling is always wonderful (, Agree-- Nicole Johnson's gown was impeccable. Miss Columbia, Jada Samuel, won the Wednesday Red Carpet/Social Impact preliminary in the Miss South Carolina competition. (, Like her intro on her website, "Born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Page currently resides in Pittsburgh, but travels the world as a Flight Attendant for Delta Airlines." (, No, she aged out. That's when I decided to see it as a comedy to see who is the most believable of the ridiculous bratty messes. I hope it never goes back there, I could write a long list of places that would be better no matter what the history of AC is. Now she's won a title in NC, even though she lives mainly in NYC. (, Maybe they could make rooms or set up camping areas in the hall. I do not like the situation, either. I had not even noticed her until she walked out in that yellow gown.After that, it was over. (, I kinda thought that 96 Shawntell Smith was what the MAO wanted. Just sayin (, I was told once by someone at my state (which overall has been pretty successful at Miss America over the years) that they tell their judges in orientation what they are looking for and it might vary from year to year. Both were shocking wins to most, and both swore on all the sponsors they were bringing in yet as their years went on, absolutely nothing (, Shirley Cothran Barrett, Miss America 1975 (, I am the type who tends to think the best of people instead of the worst, so I have never believed in these predetermined winners. He was famous for the MANY winners he produced and was on Kentuckys Board of Directors when he died of cancer. (, Or they are genetically thinner than the high fructose addicted Americans (, The country singer sounds like Dolly Parton. It might work strictly for when you are competing in gown and have the whole stage, but you need to change when everyone is back out there. They didnt clap much and when she returned from her walk she was greated by Majorie Vincent ..No stampede at all (, Maybe they should do what AL used to do in those old videos. (, Had no idea that was the same Michelle Harris that competed for the 96 pageant (, I met Jennifer in person before she won NJ USA. Vermont 2022 . Enter Today! (, Miss Louisiana was there today. They were surprised that age is too old. You are the same person that always makes these snarky comments about why so and so did not put title or name or other info. The fact that the state EDs were never reimbursed for Dallas and they were asked to pay for the candidates, staff and production's room & board does bode well that anyone has come to MAO's rescue. (, They mean Olivia Culpo. Turns out, I was right! Copyright 2022 WCSC. They just dont say anything out of fear of what would come next (, Perhaps you should go read the comments of support for her, as well as others (like Averie) who empathize. So that competition will heretofore be known as the "Artisinal Organic Walk in a Non Gender Conforming Garment of Your Choice." (, Is that when they are going to announce the age increase guidelines thats already on the website? (, Did any director on the call pushback to anything? Other favorites include Susan Perkins' purple gown she was crowned in, Carolyn Sapp's crowning gown, Kim Aiken's classic black gown at crowning and her green and red gowns as the reigning Miss America the next year. She made the top 10 at Miss USA 97 but thats as far as she got (, I have read that she was not liked and she was there to win. Of course, the first was Miss USA this year. 4 years of competing is more than enough. She is one classy former, even today. they don't owe us anything (, As a business practice, it would be beneficial to them to share more info. Show your support by donating any amount. Three years prior the front runner won. (, Dont the sore losers know they are being recorded? (, My favorite wardrobe story is former Miss Ohio, Tana Kay Carli (MAO- 1st RU) said her gown came from Goodwill and the beading was done by Vietnamese boat people. (, Now this is how you produce a pageant!!! She has told the story behind it many times. I don't know which was which, however. (, Her first minutes as Miss Universe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpK-MlgwGOU (, https://sfstandard.com/criminal-justice/sf-beauty-queens-mom-jailed-for-cyberbullying-daughters-boyfriends, Speaking of pageant moms, what is the latest on Mary Sullivan? (, If anything I think they would have been more careful than ever to make sure the judging was 100% above board and fair after the Miss USA complaints. Your comment demonstrates those who label others bullies to shut them down. When the new owner purchased Universe it also included the rights to USA, its on their Instagram header (, She will always have an * by her name, in the minds of many. (, If they really thought it was rigged, why would the outspoken members of the Class of 22 not just have approached the MUO office. Kandace Krueger lost to the gorgeous Miss Puerto Rico, and Nia Sanchez to Miss Dominican Republic who was he favorite that year. (, The singer named Lainey, the LA float. [3], Miriam Stevenson, South Carolina's first Miss USA and the United States' first Miss Universe, was also the first Miss USA winner to have competed at Miss America. (, I did not say it was rigged. I'm - sorry, not so sure about that. It was just a matter of who was going to be 1st runner up. (, Susan Perkins and her mother dyed that gown purple in a washtub. (, Not my favorite Miss America, but I definitely agree about Erika's gown. Personally I think she is beautiful and I think her answers were strong. And theres another girl named Cat that a lot of the Carolina girls know, too. I surprised most of you people make it out of the house. or Illinois? Simple, elegant, definitely non-pageant. Holt, 17, is from Fountain Inn and attends Woodmont High School. So many stunning women. Thailand could advance, as could host USA, but I feel the years of USA advancing because os sash may end. I tuned in during Colton's season because as a gay male, it was so obvious he was gay, so I had to see him wreck people's lives and own the trash that he is. She performed a lyrical dance to Never Enough. The cringey farewell . (, And just got to the crowning and yes that was bad - it's almost like she already knew? I'd like to know if anything more is going to be done about the 2021 classes claim that Crystle's ex husband sexually harassed them. To have a bona-fide winner, and then the reaction from the other girls. (, So age, experience, does matter: 60% of the T5 were old (, I understand your feelings totally because I'm tired of 17 and 18 year olds claiming vast knowledge of things like Constitutional Law, when they couldn't even vote the year before and have no real world or real life experience. (, Will never forget the look on Olivia Jordans face when she was called as 2nd runner up at Universe 2015 (, Nia was not the brightest bulb. Q: Would Leanza still have won had she worn Bob Mackie for finals? (, I'm assuming Jennifer Makris was aloof and hyper-focused, in it to win it & not make friends along the way. (, She is a flight attendant now so my guess is that she is using her parents home as her home. Date Posted: 19:30:09 01/13/23 Fri. (NoHost/12.148.198.10) As mentioned with several postings, thankfully still remaining on this one-page only message board forum, the 2022 Miss Universe pageant will be held tomorrow night, Saturday, January 14, 2023 in New Orleans, Louisiana USA. I should know.I loaned it to her! (. (, I doubt it. She cut her hair really short (, She was a bit heavy in SS but like someone said if the judges like you they will advance you She must have had a good interview (, Just watched, I was guessing she was the winner, just by her whole body language (, I truly believe it has happened twice in the past 4 years. Indonesia! If you think she won fair and square good for you but we are allowed to feel oltherwise without being called liars. Jill Dudley was crowned Miss South Carolina at the Township Auditorium. For American pageant fans, the only broadcast television way to . No, its just obvious that others were more beautiful and deserving. But I can't get over how awful she looked in SS and gown. Drag name was Carmella Marcella Garcia, I believe. No law firm will touch her. (, Who is the MAO girl? (, It was a reply and the delete took the original message. El Salvador is from Texas. Can you imagine being Miss OR and trying to walk behind that dress onstage and not stop on it? (, Oregon dyed her hair back to blond after winning state with brown hair. (, I do not think being called fake or plastic is constructive criticism (, I just did a search on this page & didn't find plastic & fake was in reference to a pageant from before the current contestants were born. That makes more sense, "jealous" is a color that looks bad on everyone! Good for her!!! Now Im not saying it was fixed, but as we all know, when theres that much smoke, theirs usually a fire am (, No, its not obvious that the others were more beautiful. She performed a jazz dance to. Any advice would be helpful. "Not sure why you think girls have to read the boards to know" because they have friends and family who know better than to forward them bs posts from anonymous posters on a pageant gossip board who can't affect their scoring! Upcoming locals are Greater Cleveland (4 titles), Shawnee Portsmouth, Oxford Tallawanda and Sweeps. Scroll down a bit and you'll find Day 1, Day 2, etc. Her choice was textbook perfect. Her talent was absolutely incredible and she gave off super positive vibes, unlike Makris. I can not wait. Indiana? (, Well then its time to change perceptions I think (, Well it's interesting because 2 national shows (syndicated I believe) - was either Daily Beast or Inside Edition, or another similar show - and the hosts on both of these types of shows just today were covering it and talking about Miss Universe and all of them were saying 'only 28?' Wikipedia is also thirsty. (, Most people don't even know our reigning Miss America's name - Are we supposed to know who Miss South Carolina 2000 was? Free to see a well lit, good sound, beautifully filmed pageant. NOT! (, Lol I said Colton was gay from the first episode (, It was a train wreck of juiciness. Major difference is Miss USA/Universe contestants are beautiful. I also didn't find her that pretty. (, I missed the first group. Not sure why you think girls have to read the boards to know. (, Maybe I'm using the wrong word. So the line of thinking definitely goes both ways - so let's say we really adjust the age limit and make it 18 year olds if and only if they have completed 1 year of college coursework (that helps weed out all of those ideas of grandeur of schools they may or may not attend, as well as majors they likely have zero capability to pursue), and in the same vein, ditch the 24 year olds plus because they should have finished school by now, with no excuses. Fans of that can watch Miss America. No monthly $34 fees. Those other contestants were PISSED that she won. No Miss Universe for me. Here, go walk. (, Just like most of Miss NC's she would do nothing. And of course hopefully it will be back on TV. Brazil is from New York. (, Did she not design it herself? (, I loved Savvy's story. Maybe 75% for finals. (, I think they were afraid the org would push it under the rug or prevent them from speaking out. Im thinking that she was accusing others of wrong doing, maybe theft? I get it, I used to love it too back in the day, but people are wishing for it go back to a place that is not even close to being what it used to be. I signed up for Roku it was free. (, Who says they cannot be on these boards? (, I'm with you. Why don't the people that run the show read the comments from the fans? (, Regarding her 2nd place Finnish We all should know by now if the judges like you they will score you high no matter what. Tiffany's SS was one of the best I've ever seen at Miss America, but Tiffany also wasn't very pretty (, Yes, Tiffany was the same year as Heather and Jennifer. Watch Olivia Culpos reactions to her each time she introduced her or asked her a question, it was very clear she knew who was going to win! (, Lol keep telling yourself that. Then, it's kinda fun. (, When will MUO release a public statement. (, Guatemalas national costume May have been the best I have EVER seen. (, I agree, I never got NJ's high placement. They werent. (, Nicole Johnson standing there in a simple black, non-pageanty gown. If this is true, then I have some renewed hope for MAO. USA is styled like Olivia Culpo was. Curaao; 10. [ Shrink] VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. (, Miss Universe Puerto Rico was Miss Florida USA 2021 (, Final 5: Venezuela, USA, Puerto Rico, Curacao and Dominican Republic. (, Resigned??? Miss Grand Strand Teen, Ngaarumbidzwe Magombedze, won the Thursday Evening Gown/Onstage Question preliminary in the Miss South Carolina Teen competition. Kazakhstan and Latvia are in this article, but did not show up for the pageant. 4350 Smokeless Powder (8 Lbs), Accurate No. (, The pageant that Christina won, Miss California USA 1989, is on the GuyRex Legacy Channel on YouTube. You're changing the goal posts as your claims are shown false. (, Unpopular opinion, but AC and the boardwalk are a total dive. (, Wasnt excited about Miss America, but am loving the online coverage of Miss Universe (, It will not be on NBC check your local listings for the 14th.. No Prefix Necessary Universe?? A Miss America contestant could never wear it since their hasn't been a good looking contestant in years. She looked like she was wandering in from the parking lot wearing Scarlette O'Hara's prom dress. (, So this is not a snarky post at all, but - not just on this board (read that again please, before you jump down my throat). Meera Bhonsl of Lexington was crowned Miss South Carolina USA 2022 on March 5, 2022 at North Charleston Coliseum & Performing Arts Center in North Charleston. Because of her ethnic background then. . (, Top Five: Venezuela, USA, Puerto Rico, Curaao, Dominican Republic. And yes I say rigged just like I will say Universe was rigged! (, Guessing T3 - DR, V & a player to be named later (, Top three: Dominican Republic, USA, Venezuela. (, Getting to know the right people is what is wrong with NC. (, Has it startedstill getting the spinning circle. (, If you want to see the flip side, watch Miss Virginia 1999. And you wonder why pay that much for something that you have to walk around with it all wadded up around you? It shows a screen with starting soon on it. I pray Curaao wins. MAO thinks the world evolves around them. I also liked her answers better. Until then, shut it. (, Wasn't impress with almost all of them! There was so much energy at the venue and I enjoyed the whole damn thing! No having to remember to cancel. (, For anyone interested in seeing HH state win at Miss SC, that pageant is on YouTube under 2000 Miss South Carolina Pageant. (, The slow clap from contestant on Jennifer's left was EVERYTHING! And it makes sense since she is single. (, As for Miss Russia, that organization needs to be banned from international competition. LOOKING FOR THE NEXT MISS, MS, AND MRS WORLD OR WORLDWIDE BEAUTY! Some work was done apparently. (, here we go again. Shes not MA but my favorite dress of all time is Olivia Jordans Miss USA pink dress. Mexico! So who is telling the truth - I didn't watch. Stop saying something is rigged when it doesn't end the way you think it should have. You're the one with the bully comment-- 'Mouthing off' is not a neutral term. (, If you have a smart TV like a Sanyo, you can add channels via internet or Wi-Fi connectivity just like you add an app on your smartphone. (, It was just verified my a state ED but its hush- hush for some reason. It's None of your business! https://www.insider.com/women-competing-to-be-miss-universe-photos-2023-1#haiti-mideline-phelizor-37 (, I did check our local cable listingthere will be a one-hour pre-show special followed by the three-hour 2022 Miss Universe pageant from New Orleans airing at 7---11 pm Eastern time/6--10 pm Central time on NBC's Telemundo Spanish channel on Saturday, January 14, 2023. (, If Matlock was going to return, she would have done a Dallas Area local and they are over now. Yikes. (, Sorry to hear that. I would have had Rebecca Blouin, Miss Mississippi, as 2nd RU instead. The Miss Universe national costume show (, I have tuned in and all i am getting at the moment is a spinning circleanyone else? (, Mary plead guilty and was to enter prison around this time. Philippines; 9. She said she purchased her gown before she even decided to compete at Miss AR- she just knew one day she'd be back on a state stage and saved it! FACT. I'm going out on a limb and guess the Top 10: Venezuela, Colombia, Puerto Rico, USA, Philippines, South Africa, India, Dominican Republic, Australia and Brazil. To reduce yourself to groveling, wailing, crying messes for all to see! (, I loved Tiffany Storm and would've placed her higher. (, It helps she's a designer so she can create or work with the right people. One gown I loved was Kira k (, Miss America 1980 pageant held in Sept.1979. Can anyone help? She knows they're not for the girls. I predicted she would make the first cut, then out. (, Well, I personally thought it was a gorgeous dress. Afraid of everybody and every thing. She is a cum laude graduate from Coastal Carolina University with a degree in English and minor in Political Science. I hated it there the last few years it was there. I actually liked her.. especially her talent at MA. Fight me if youd like, but its all on video. 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